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Thank you to Pennsylvania.

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We love Pennsylvania is good to be back
in Pennsylvania.

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With five days
before the election, motivating

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supporters to the ballot
box will be key to winning Pennsylvania.

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That's the finding of the Franklin
and Marshall College poll.

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And joining us now is the poll's director,
Berwood Yost.

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Mr. Yost, thank you for joining us.

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My pleasure.

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Thanks for having me.

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Well, it's five days to go for
the Pennsylvania presidential election.

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I don't even know why
we're including the rest of the country.

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Why? What did your polling reveal?

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Well,
you know, like many other polls here,

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we show a very close race.

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You know, there's many things,
other things that are important

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to understand about the poll
in terms of the electoral context.

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But when it gets down to it,

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it appears to be a very tight race
and toss up.

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It depends a little bit on the voter,
the makeup of the likely voter pool.

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We see a difference
between registered voters in our poll

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and likely voters
at the time we conducted the poll.

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So that's really probably going to be

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what the campaigns
focus on the rest of the way.

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A closing message
that drives out their voters

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and tries to get the most favorable
electorate possible for each candidate.

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I want to drill down on that
because I'm reminded of a quote

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right after the 2016 election from Hillary
Clinton's campaign manager.

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And they said, well, what is it
because you never campaigned in Wisconsin?

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Was it because of this group?
We could that group.

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And he said, look, an election this tight
is everything is the correct answer.

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All these groups,
the Puerto Ricans in Pennsylvania,

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for example, or whatever group
you want to go to, but it does seem,

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as you just said, that
the real key here is getting the sort

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of these less enthused voters
and less regular voters to the polls.

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Is that the difference between
the registered and the likely voter?

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Is that really the key here
in the closing days?

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It seems to be.

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You know, I've been

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describing this race in Pennsylvania
to two people as a mosaic.

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There's
so many little pieces that fit together

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that if you remove any one of them,
the picture will change.

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And you know,
it was clear in our last poll

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the difference between registered voters
and likely voters

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was was unusually large.

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I mean, normally
it shows a difference of a point or two.

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This showed movement up four
or five points,

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and it was largely because the people
who got through our likely voter screen

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people seemed to be most interested,
enthusiastic about voting.

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They were a little different
from registered voters in that

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they were slightly more self-identified
as Republicans.

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There were fewer moderates
and there were fewer people

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under 35 years of age than those last two
groups are particularly important.

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Kamala Harris does very well
in the state with moderate voters.

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She does very well with voters under 35.

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And if those two groups don't show up,

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then you've got the results
that we found in our poll,

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which is an electorate
that's more favorably inclined

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to Donald Trump
and for that matter, Dave McCormick

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and not to mention all the other races
that are going on in this state

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Congressional race is our state
House is as equally divided right

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as our electorate for for president,
one or two.

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One, two, one.
So there's a lot at stake here.

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Well, Berwood Yost, the polling director

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of the Franklin and Marshall College poll,
thank you so much for joining us.

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All eyes are on Pennsylvania next week.

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My pleasure.

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